PARIS Real Estate Finders (PREF)
“We take the burden out of finding a home in Paris.”Client Stories and Testimonials
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These successful clients have generously provided us with testimonials of their experience partnering with PREF to advise them as they transact an apartment in Paris. If you would like a reference from a client, we will be happy to provide you individual email addresses to clients whose criteria are similar to yours. We hope you will be considerate of their time and limit your questions to matters specific to their recommendations regarding our services and experience with us. We are happy to answer more general questions about the market ourselves.
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Patsy and Gil
1. Darrell will send you a questionnaire, and follow up with many questions. You will feel that you are being interrogated. You are. Don’t take it personally. The more they know about you, and what you think you want, the better the job they can do. 2. Answer all questions put to you with total honesty. They cannot help you until they know what you want. It also helps if you and your partner agree strongly on what you want. If you don’t, try to sort that out before you launch this adventure. 3. Don’t argue with Stephanie. Well, you can, but chances are you won’t win. And it’s all for your own good. In the end, she knows best. 4. Don’t argue with Darrell. He might smile so you think you won, but if you do you will be sorry. 5. Be prepared to be flexible. I know you had your heart set on the shabby flat in the IIeme, overpriced that it was. But when Darrell assures you that you will spend more years than you have left redoing everything from the ground up, believe him. And when they say they have something in the (horror of horrors!) Veme that you will love, go with it. 6. Trust PREF. We cannot say this too strongly. They will get you through the most mind-boggling of French legal aspects. You cannot do it alone. We are lawyers, but of course, not French lawyers. The French reasoning is not of this planet. Stephanie understands their planet very well. 7. It helps to speak flawless French. We don’t. Stephanie does. 8. When PREF asks you to come for 10 days because they think they have just what you want, grab the first flight and go. French flats don’t stay on the market long. Stephanie and Darrell do not waste your time showing you real estate you: a) don’t want or b) cannot afford. Our experience with PREF was a valuable one. Stephanie and Darrell are generous with their knowledge and good, sound advice. They will walk you through the process, and it is a process. But in the end, if you listen to them, you will have your little piece of Paris. Patsy and Gil |
Jon and Leah
We are not sure what the trigger was to actually decide to buy an apartment, but once we set the process in motion, it felt right to finally go for it and buy a piece of Paris. Our excitement grew after finding Darrell and Stephanie since we felt confident that they would guide us through the complicated process, and so we began to anticipate the many new adventures in that were in store for us. Today we are convinced that we were successful only because we were fortunate enough to have the guidance of Darrell and Stephanie. They are consummate professionals, as well as being highly knowledgeable about Parisian real estate. But even those credentials are not enough to help overwhelmed clients negotiate the many different levels of buying an apartment without a skilled property finder. Thus, the ultimate skill needed, that Darrell and Stephanie possess, is their ability to "listen", reflect back, and help the clients identify what their preferences are, as well as deal with the misgivings, the concerns, and even, in our case, the cold feet. That is, a few days after signing the pre-contract (you get 7 days to renege) we truly became overwhelmed by all the specifics and lost our confidence to be able to successfully negotiate ownership of a Parisian apartment from the States. Quite agitated, we called Stephanie and Darrell to inform them that we had changed our minds. Their calmness and assurance that we were still in control of our fate helped us sleep that night, but their invitation to join them early the next morning to discuss what 'spooked' us was also quite reassuring. By morning we had become ambivalent. After a "counseling" session with Darrell and Stephanie, during which they calmly asked questions to help us sort out our concerns, we were able to resolve our anxiety and move forward. To our amazement and luck, Stephanie and Darrell were able to address each problem that we had anticipated with very specific solutions! Suddenly it all seemed doable. With hindsight I am truly impressed with their skill level in supporting our concerns both emotionally and practically. While both Stephanie and Darrell are successful in not imposing their values and needs onto the clients, when they feel there is a mistake in progress they become relentless until they are convinced that the clients understand all the implications of their choice. Since French mortgage requirements can be quite daunting, Stephanie was convinced that with the weak dollar there was a more prudent and conservative alternative than the one we chose. She insisted we contact a close professional friend of hers who was finally able to help us understand the nuances of the alternative approach she was recommending, and we are quite pleased with the outcome! Stephanie's commitment to support us even beyond finding a property is the ultimate testament to her desire to make our dream come true. Today we are currently dealing with trying to set up the apartment from the States; BUT with the excellent referrals they suggested we are comfortable and confident in the people who are assembling the apartment. And even though their "official" role has concluded, they are still actively involved in reviewing estimates, making suggestions, and even representing us at the closing. Their role as property finders is far more than just a "business" to them, and it is easy to see why they are so successful and appreciated. |
Andrea and Joe
Then, in the early spring of this year (2009), we were in Paris again, this time for a couple of days of business, then a week on vacation. The third of our five kids had been married a few months earlier, and all the college tuitions had been paid. After the business was taken care of, Andee asked, “So, when are we going to look for an apartment to buy?” I told her that I had found the website of an American couple in Paris, who called themselves Paris Real Estate Finders, who might be able to help us navigate the famously complex ( at least to Americans) French real estate system. She called and made arrangements to meet with them. We met Stephanie and Darrell in their wonderful apartment in the 9th, with a view of La Tour Eiffel. Although we were the ones who should have been interviewing them, we felt that we were the ones being interviewed----what kind of apartment are you looking for, what is your timeframe, what are your educational and professional backgrounds, what is your budget, do you want, or need, a loan in France, etc, etc? Along the way, we learned a lot about them, also--- a doctor and a lawyer with long careers in the U.S. who had moved to Paris early this decade and had considerable experience dealing with English-speaking Paris lovers and potential apartment owners. I guess we qualified for their services, because the next thing we knew, Darrell was busy on his computer, using his software and www.pap.fr to find matches to our “dream place,” calculating asking prices per square meter, and Stephanie was busy making appointments for us to visit apartments that Appointments were made, and the search was on. Darrell and Stephanie dragged us all over Paris to make sure that we knew the atmosphere of each arrondissement we might be interested in. Darrell emphasized the need for a local market nearby, a convenient metro stop or two and some good local brasseries or bistros. We knew we wanted local flower shops and boucheries, patisseries and boulangeries (and, of course, wine shops) where we could get the freshest ingredients for our home-cooked meals. They showed us so many charming, movie-set areas of Paris, but were we ready to commit to a neighborhood mobbed with tourists, lots of street noise and young starry-eyed people (probably like we were at one point) wandering around? More importantly, did we want a potentially amazing apartment with original wood floors, bas relief ceilings, large old floor to ceiling windows, an old tiny kitchen that needed so much work that we would not be able to call it our own until we had restored the entire place from head to toe? Restoration is Andee’s business – but to do that, she needs to spend the majority of her time in Los Angeles, not in Paris. These thoughts were going through our heads, and our discussion, with each apartment Stephanie and Darrell took us to see. As Andee put it, “Yes, Stephanie and Darrell have very competent people to do the restoration and oversee the work, but this is MY work – this is what I have spent years doing, and when I finally fall in love with an amazing original Parisian apartment, do I really want to rely on someone else to do the work?” Andee was torn – she loved the original Parisian apartments, but did not have the time to oversee the “project of her life.” I, on the other hand, really didn’t appreciate the old, smelly original apartments with poor layouts, warped floors, stained walls and electrical We got to our last day in Paris (for this trip). The four of us were at lunch at a brasserie near the Victor Hugo metro. Andee was noting my obvious lack of insight and imagination regarding the “original look” in an apartment. The air was thick, and this was the most tasteless lunch we had ever eaten in Paris. Stephanie broke the ice by saying that we had one more appointment nearby and did we still want to go? I said yes, because I liked this upscale area a lot and wasn’t ready to give up quite yet. Andee was willing to check it out, although she saw the photo of the building and thought it looked boring. It was an Art Deco building, actually several buildings around a central courtyard. She did not have high hopes that this would be her dream place. We walked several blocks down Blvd Victor Hugo and several quiet tree-lined streets with large residential buildings until we came to the apartment building. The neighborhood was quiet, with embassies all around, and little old ladies were sitting on the benches with their small dogs in the garden area in front of the building. We walked through the porte cochere to the back building. We were buzzed into the lobby with its decorative iron lift and its art deco spiral staircase. Andee thought this lobby was very interesting – continuing the art deco feeling from the outside of the building and bas relief panels. The apartment was on the 2nd (3rd to Americans) floor, with a small balcony on the very quiet back street. The owner answered the door and let us in. It was all white, bright and clean! But, it was not modern – it was kept in the Art Deco mode, with a built-in table and mirror in the entry, a built-in buffet in the dining area and floor-to-ceiling glass doors in the living room looking out to a great residential view. Glass doors separated the entry from the living area, and hallways separated the two bedrooms from the entry. The kitchen was a modern American kitchen with an open bar to use as a pass through or eat breakfast The bathroom had been recently renovated, with 2 faucets and a trough sink--separate room for the toilet, with a small shelf for books and a small sink. The bedrooms were nice sizes with closets with doors created to continue the Art Deco look. The master bedroom had a window looking below at a garden next door. It was clean and quiet, with nice Art Deco amenities. However, after the earlier discussions about the appeal of the older apartments, I was sure Andee would hate it, and after looking at all the rooms, said to her, “Shall we go?” She looked at me and said, “I love it!” I almost fell over. This was an apartment that, though not Haussmannian, had history (built in the 1930’s), had historic architectural elements, had full glass doors with lots of light and had potential –which we could create ourselves! We both loved it, but Darrell and Stephanie were not too sure about it. It wasn’t old enough; it didn’t have enough historic architectural elements; it was too big a complex. But we just turned to them and said we wanted to buy it! They told us to walk around the area and check it out to make sure this is what we wanted, and they would meet us in ½ hour. The neighborhood, though not movie-set Paris, was right for us. The more we walked, the more we fell in love. With a very limited time left in Paris, we began the negotiations. Stephanie and Darrell worked with us all the way, continuing with negotiations that took place by phone and email during our week in Portugal and then after our return to Los Angeles. Their experience showed here, and they weren’t shy about expressing their opinions about how things should be done. True to their word, they introduced us, by email, to a banker at HSBC, a mortgage loan officer at BPI, and the notaire at Cheuvreux and explained the ins and outs of the RIB. There were some trying moments near the end of the escrow process, when we were in Canada, and Stephanie and Darrell were in Oregon ( or was it We are now in the process of furnishing the apartment. We had visited Les Puces before, but never to buy something big; Stephanie introduced us to BHV, and we have discovered Darty and Habitat. We are having fun following the historic Art Deco style with our furnishings - finding vintage posters, art deco light fixtures and furniture, carpets and other accessories with the traditional angular forms and oval shapes. This may take a while, but it is all part of the fun of having our very own place in Paris. We can honestly say that we could not have done this without Stephanie and Darrell. I doubt that we would ever have found www.pap.fr, and wouldn’t have known what to do with it if we had. We look forward to hosting our grown kids in Paris, introducing them, and their children, to the City of Lights. Stephanie and Darrell have helped us maintain our love of Paris, and of each other. |
Brett and Fiona "THE TWENTY YEAR PLAN"We (like you?) dream of spending half the year in our native country (Australia) and the other half in our own little piece of Paris but we have a young family and are realistically twenty years away from doing that...however, it is never too early to start planning! We spent much of 2007 researching our dream on the internet. We came across Darrell and Stephanie's website, made contact and arranged to meet with them in Paris in March 2008. At that point, everything was well planned and rational.then about 2 weeks before our trip, we fell in love with an apartment we had seen on the internet. We didn't want to lose the apartment because we weren't in Paris so promptly engaged PREF and instructed Darrell and Stephanie to view it on our behalf. The only problem being that Darrell and Stephanie were visiting family in the US at the time! This first experience highlighted the major strength of PREF - connections, dedication and experience. They organized an associate to view and photograph the apartment, then after much correspondence over 3 different timezones, they made a full price offer on our behalf - remember at this stage we hadn't even met them! Unfortunately, we missed the apartment as someone else offered the full price IN CASH (an offer we couldn't match!). We had a wonderful week in Paris in March 2008 but the market was starting to feel the effects of the Global Financial Crisis. Darrell and Stephanie confirmed that market conditions were unusually quiet and although we didn't find "the one", we did firm up our views on size, location and "turn key" status. Our great lesson here was that all apartments in Paris (at least at our budget) are compromised in some way - we adjusted our expectations. We left Paris having given Darrell and Stephanie a list of criteria: price, location, size, etc. We promised to keep in touch and were ready to proceed having organised mortgage approval (thanks PREF) and a local bank account (thanks PREF). In June 2008, we fell in love (again) with an apartment we found on the internet. Sure it broke all the criteria we had set for PREF but love is love - it is not rational! After a nervous few days of emailing back and forth, the gorgeous light filled Marais apartment was ours..but it did require some renovating (something we swore we would not do!). Sure enough Stephanie set us up with a Project Manager (the tireless Fabienne), a kitchen company (Caulaincourt Cuisines), a painter and a builder. It is now November 2008 and thanks to Darrell and Stephanie the dream has been realized. Our apartment has been purchased, settled, renovated and furnished from a (very large) distance and our first guests arrive next month. We regularly pinch ourselves and ask how we got to this point and the honest answer is simple - Darrell and Stephanie. Their commitment to us went well beyond what we paid them for. They have been extremely generous with their time and expertise. If you are thinking you might "go it alone", STOP! Employ and put your trust in the experts. We think the results speak for themselves: check out www.parisapt.net (apt 4) or www.apartrental.com/apartment-paris/paris-apartment-482.html. Fiona and Brett Melbourne, Australia |
Doug and Donna
We first met Darrell & Stephanie when we rented the JDM apartment. It was a break
from a Western Canadian winter when Spring was coming too slowly. I was drawn to
rent from them because I had idly searched on the net for information on buying an
apartment in Paris. The PREF site was unique in its comprehensiveness and its
detail. The search parameters were clear and their relevance was obvious. What
impressed me most was the frank admission on the site that most people don't
follow-through with their inquiries, and that it would not be worthwhile to engage
an agent due to commission costs under a certain threshold purchase price.
Notwithstanding this, and the low odds of any inquiry being a serious one, the PREF
site provided full information and details of available properties, regardless of
whether I was searching out of idle curiosity or whether I was serious about finding
property.
I also took some reassurance from their own professional qualifications and achievements: serious business needs serious ability. So, we rented JDM and took a holiday. During that time, we not only had a great time, but we also became acquainted with the lower 18th and got comfortable with the city; it had been a while since we had been there. We had a general chat or two with Darrell and Stephanie about real estate, but nothing too serious, and I'm certain that they did not view us as likely purchasers at that time. A year later, we rented JDM again. We got more comfortable with the city. We had more discussions. After that, we began an email conversation with them about purchasing property, and developed a good idea of what we wanted to do. They arranged meetings with a bank for financing, which I was able to conclude almost entirely over the net. I liked the idea of using a French bank for a mortgage for two reasons: first, the lender would verify the commercial value of the property to ensure that its loan was reasonably secured against the real estate; and, second, it allowed me to plan euro transfers in currencies that were not being devalued at the time. They also arranged a meeting with Barclays Bank so we could set-up our banking arrangements to enable us to write cheques, pay bills and make an offer with a deposit cheque attached. A year after that second rental, we arrived in Paris a third time, staying at both Douai and JDM, ready to look for suitable property, and with local financing already lined-up. We signed the contract with Darrell and Stephanie to use their services to find something suitable. The practical advice on neighbourhoods and locations in the city, and average prices per square metre was invaluable: we would get what we wanted where we wanted it, and the choices were ours, subject only to the budget. Over the course of a couple of days, we looked at several properties that met our criteria, and after a lot of walking we found what we were looking for in the heart of the 9th. It needed extensive renovation, but the location and characteristics were exceptional. But, before we made the offer, Darrell and Stephanie brought in the builder, who we would later use for the renovations, to give us an informed opinion on what could be done with the space and to provide a ballpark estimate of the costs. We would never have found it on our own, and no realtor had ever listed the place for sale. It took less than two days. Darrell and Stephanie were with us to view each property, and to give an informed and helpful opinion on whether it represented value for money, and what the non-obvious risks might be. We still call anything small and unusual in a building a "charm element" in honour of Darrell's various observations on several of the properties we viewed. Thus, with their invaluable assistance and negotiating skills, we were able to make an offer, and to navigate the French property purchase and closing process. We were introduced to a local firm of Notaires who handled the property transaction on our behalf, and who provided first-rate services. We will be using them for any legal matters that involve our French property and associated interests in future. Over and above all that, they introduced us to an American ex-pat, Lauren, who agreed, for a fee, to act as a contract manager and oversee our renovations and ensure that all proceeded as intended. She did a marvellous job of supervising and reporting-back on the renovations, keeping the building management on-side, as well as finding and purchasing our furniture and appliances and hooking-up utilities, phone, TV and internet. At Darrell and Stephanie's recommendation we engaged the services of the renovator and builder who viewed the property before we made our offer, and who not only gutted and rebuilt the interior, but also met the budget (more or less), and who did more than we could have hoped. At their recommendation we also engaged the services of Caulaincourt Cuisines to design and install a new kitchen, and they were excellent. How many people can say that from a great distance, they bought, mortgaged, renovated and furnished an apartment in a foreign land, and nothing really seriously aggravating occurred? All this was achieved in less than six months. There is nothing better than working with people who meet and exceed your expectations. Each of the people we dealt with: the mortgage banker, the general banker, the renovator, the kitchen contractor and Lauren, met that standard. It's called integrity. And, that is only a fair reflection of the standard of care and help we received from Darrell and Stephanie who quarterbacked the whole thing from start to finish. We are really, very happy with the entire experience. We now have a home in Paris, where we can come and go as we see fit. All we do is lock the door until we return. And, sometimes we email ahead to meet Darrell and Stephanie for dinner. |
Hyung and Andrea
As long-time Francophiles, my wife and I had been talking for several years about buying a pied a terre in Paris. However, it never seemed to be the right time - having kids, changing jobs, dollar depreciating, etc. It suddenly dawned on us that at that rate, we would wake up one day long past our prime, too set in our ways to make the move.
So on a recent business trip to London, my wife and I decided to add a couple of days in Paris to do some apartment viewing...not really shopping even. Having seen a story about Darrell and Stephanie in the New York Times, we decided to get in touch with them to see how it felt working with them, and if things went well, maybe coming back again to do some real apartment hunting. As things turned out, we saw the apartment we eventually bought on the first day, and spent the next few days seeing other apartments to convince ourselves that we weren't deluding ourselves. Darrell and Stephanie made the search process extremely easy. They did the property searches, showed us a list of properties that sounded right for us based on the criteria we gave them, set up viewings and took us around. They also helped us, at our price point, to come to the conclusion that despite our fevered dreams of living in the Marais or St Germain des Pres, there are many neighborhoods in Paris that are not as well known to visitors and tourists, but which have some really great properties in real neighborhoods that are actually quite close to most of what you want to see and do in Paris. So we decided to pull the trigger and with Darrell and Stephanie's help, we were able to put in an offer on our apartment, line up financing, set up a local bank account, and otherwise get everything lined up to purchase the apartment in about three days. Darrell and Stephanie were also invaluable in executing the sale remotely from our home in Hong Kong, liaising with the seller, our mortgage bank and other parties to make sure we closed without a hitch. They also introduced us to people who has been very helpful getting the post-closing living arrangements sorted out including someone to handle the rental of our apartment during the times when we're not in Paris. Working with Darrell and Stephanie has been a great experience. We always felt that they had our best interests at heart. Even after the closing, they have been helpful with our issues with the gas company, building management etc. and have been extremely generous with their time and advice. Hyung and Andrea |
Marguerite and Billy
Our quest for a little piece of Paris to call our own and hence our
introduction to Stephanie & Darrell (S & D) occurred in March 2005. In Paris
to participate in the Paris Half Marathon, we availed ourselves of the
opportunity to meet with S & D to establish if they would be the right people
to assist us if we decided to proceed with our purchase.
Living in Sydney, Australia and having to rely on "school French" we were acutely aware of the challenges we would face and accordingly of our need for a sound partner on the ground. We had found PREF on the internet so our expectations of our first meeting were tempered by the knowledge of the thousands of hits Google can provide. We duly made our way to S & D's apartment in the 9th Arrondissement and within a short time were put at ease, given their credentials and experience. We realised that they were sussing us out as much we were undertaking our own investigation They gave us advice on areas to check out and even more importantly to buy a copy of "le Petit Parisian" (maps of Paris) which has been our bible ever since. Having then returned to Australia, during the next year we regularly surfed the internet and increased our knowledge and understanding of the Paris property market. We have to admit that the lack of photos provided with the sales properties, allied with the poor presentation of the "for sale" apartments when photos were supplied, made us query why we were doing this and how we were ever going to find somewhere suitable. As we watched Paris from afar national/global events such as the fantastic Tour de France, the student riots and the loss of the 2012 Olympic bid influenced our enthusiasm and our interest. Paris was an attractive option for several reasons:
It was therefore just over a year later when we hit Paris for a week at the end of April 2006 with the sole intent of apartment hunting. We had formally engaged PREF to assist us and our aim during that week was to establish where in Paris we would like to live and get a greater feel for the market. So we hit the ground running and on that late April day, having flown 20+ hours direct from Sydney. Within a few hours of landing, we found ourselves lunching with S & D to discuss our budget, wish list and preferred location. Our preference was to stay in or around 1-4 Arrondissements and we sensed that S & D had been down this road before with potential purchasers! They talked about the virtues of the 9th - but humoured us and scheduled property visits for that very first day in our preferred locations. We picked their brains for information and the scope of what this journey would be like. They told us that clients view on average 6 apartments before they find what they like. After a few city centre viewings purchasers head to the outer arrondissements (which are really not that far out). Owners will generally be on site when you are viewing their property and expect the unexpected (unfortunately the unexpected was to become the norm). We had vowed to ourselves to try and not compare Australian practices with those of Paris and also to establish different benchmarks in terms of layout and décor to what we would require in Sydney - basically just look at the bones, ignore the décor! The first viewing was 'interesting - our memory was the "studio 54" kitchen, bathroom where there was not room to change your mind let alone anything else and a bedroom with a balcony covered in with clear corrugated sheeting to keep the pigeons out. We tried to hide our initial reaction to turn around and run out, but out of politeness to the proud owner and S & D we felt we had to show interest. After the viewing S asked us what we thought - I felt my life flashing in front of my eyes. Detecting S's directness and preference to cut to the chase as well as our own lack of time, I remember my response clearly - "I wouldn't ask any of my friends or relations to stay there". I think my honesty helped S understand our needs - it was a bit like speed dating. We had 2 further apartments to view that afternoon. In between times we had time to do our own thing which worked really well. The second apartment was in the Marais and it would be difficult to say something charitable about it. The last apartment viewing of the day was going to be the ONE or so we hoped in advance. Located adjacent to the Palais Royal in a beautiful building with a lift we were willing it to be the one. Unfortunately a butchered renovation and a poor floor plan outweighed these features. After we had reluctantly discounted the property Stephanie gave us her view on the property - which was also unfavourable. We came to realise that neither D or S gave their view until we had volunteered ours - we would get presented with options and they would not attempt to influence our decision making - instead they would try to build a picture of preferences. We retreated jet lagged to our bed that evening wondering if we had unreasonable expectations. We spent the next day exploring the 9th and 17th on D & S's suggestion. They understood and accepted that we wanted to stay closer to the centre and notwithstanding their personal preferences focused further attention on Arrondissements 1- 4. The One - yes it is meant to beOur next viewing was of a flat in the 2nd Arrondissement - bigger than we needed @ 70 m2 on the 2nd floor. Located off the bustling Rue Montorgueil. The owners were migrating to Canada and the heavily pregnant wife had been left in Paris to secure and close a sale. We loved the area and could see ourselves living in the apartment which came with its own 20 m2 vaulted ceiling cave (cellar) and private access to a side lane proving particularly memorable. We pottered around the flat with D pointing out things of note while S went on the charm offensive with the owner. We returned to an ice cream shop on Rue Montorgueil for what we have come to realise was our most expensive ice cream ever to ponder our next move. D & S counselled us on the "value" in the French market of offering the full asking price - which we did with some nervous excitement one hour later. We had only seen 4 properties, 2 below the average 6 with all the usual buyers' neurosis "that it was not perfect"! Having consulted with her husband in Canada overnight, it was confirmed the next day that our offer was accepted. Plans went into overdrive immediately to arrange for the signing of the promisse de vente (P de V) 3 days later as per their demands. We had deal with a public holiday in Australia when trying to arrange for our deposit to be transferred to France which we overcame with help of our very efficient Australian bankers. Too good to be true!Everything seemed too easy - none of those dreadful French bureaucracy experiences which are the subject of many a current best selling novel. But if we had known what was to happen next we might not now be French property owners. Problems that ensued included:
At the time when everything seemed to be happening at warp speed any of these issues could have been deal breakers and we were prepared to walk away. At a certain fatalistic level we decided if we were meant to get the apartment it would happen - and it subsequently did - and maybe we can point to the Gods for such deliverance. But to do so solely would completely underplay the role that S & D played negotiating with Notaires, vendors and purchasers willing to walk away, in what was turning into a non vanilla transaction, all of which provided a platform for them to display their full range of skills. So as planned we turned up to sign the P De V unsure as to whether it would happen or not but it went without a hitch with no obvious signs of the frantic on again off again events of the previous 3 days. We were then naive enough to think that it would [be] plain sailing to the final settlement - and didn't we get a rude awakening! We had agreed the settlement date (for two months later) with the vendor and scheduled a return trip to Paris for the momentous event. Imagine our horror when we got back to Paris for the settlement to find that is was not proceeding! Once again our transaction had taken another unusual twist. As our vendor, who had migrated to Canada, had declared himself non resident for tax purposes, the sale of the property would crystallise a capital gains tax liability on the sales proceeds, which we believe he had not contemplated when he decided to sell the property. Negotiation for S and our Notaire was again challenging especially as the vendor's Notaire was ignoring their communications. S and our Notaire had the dubious pleasure of attending a settlement when neither the vendor nor his representative turned up. S had kindly taken a Power of Attorney to complete the settlement on our behalf given that we were now back in Australia - which was a great relief to us. In any event we had to commence legal proceedings to ensure performance of the contract by the vendor - bailiffs, serving writs etc - all very exciting if it was someone else's problem. If we walked away we ran the risk of losing our deposit which was not something we fancied. In typical French fashion our vendor sorted his affairs out with the French tax office, secured the paperwork and completed on the sale just in time for everybody to go on August holiday shut down. We should have known! So thanks to S & D we now have a piece of Paris to call our own - and a couple of chapters of material for the next French property experience best seller. I think that it would be fair and honest to say that without the assistance, professionalism, persistence, technical knowledge of the process and people skills of S & D we would still be at square one. |
John and Karen
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Devi, Amit and Sanjeev
Devi and Amit flew from
Rochester, MN and Sanjeev flew from India to meet them. They met in Paris
for a weekend search for their dream apartment. PREF found them what
they wanted on the first day and they even had time for some sightseeing!
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Bruce and Connie
Working with Darrell and Stephanie, whom we learned about from the NY Times article, was a remarkable experience. Talk about finding a niche and filling a need! We started with a few legs up on other Americans looking for real estate in France: we had already lived in Paris during the '90s, and Bruce is a realtor in the suburbs north of New York City. Still, without D & S we never could have found and managed the purchase of our new apartment in Montmartre with anything like the same ease and efficiency. Here's what they offer: Knowledge.Stephanie & Darrell have a thorough understanding of that portion of the Paris real estate market that would appeal to Americans and others who are looking to buy with the possibility of then renting out in the City of Light. They explain to buyers, neighborhood by neighborhood, the tradeoffs between price and rentability, thus helping them make a wise investment.Technology.They have developed their own software that searches and filters multiple sources of apartment listings and sorts them according to the specifications and criteria of their client. Then they apply their own knowledge of both their buyers and Paris neighborhoods to produce a prioritized list of apartments to visit. The whole process is dazzlingly efficient.Timeliness.The Paris real estate market is very active, even in late January, when we were there. In town for only a week, we saw 12 flats in four days. Not one had been on the market for more than a week. We bought the 8th one we saw. On average, D & S's clients buy the 7th apartment they visit. Remarkable.Negotiating.Stephanie was a successful lawyer in the States. She knows the ins and outs of buying an apartment in Paris, and she knows what questions to ask. Her French is excellent. She's a tough but gracious negotiator. We were pleased and impressed with our deal.Contacts.Besides knowing how to navigate the system, Darrell & Stephanie have a rolodex of key resources that every buyer will need, from bankers, mortgage lenders and notaries to carpenters, plumbers and handymen. Darrell is an expert in renovating Paris apartments. What a team.Fun.We had lived four years in Paris (Bruce two more as a student) and return regularly, but visiting flats in new neighborhoods showed us parts of the city we'd never known. We bought in a neighborhood that was not familiar to us. We hoped the experience wouldn't be too stressful; we didn't expect it to be fun.Bottom line: We met Stephanie & Darrell on a Wednesday and had our offer on our flat accepted by that Sunday. As a realtor, I found their fee to be reasonable, mortgage rates to be surprisingly low (~ 3%), and closing costs to be comparable to those in my part of New York. Low rates and a sale every seventh showing? My own business should be so good. |
Joe and Helen
I can only imagine you are reading these testimonials to see if PREF is worth a try. For one
reason or another, you've decided, like we did, that you want an apartment
in Paris but you're not really sure how to go about it. PREF look like
they fit the bill, but are they as good as everyone says. Read on.
We decided to take the plunge. We contacted Darrell and Stephanie, and already from that very first contact they presented themselves as serious professionals ready to help. We continued with the process and exchanged several mails, and decided to avail of their services. At this stage, we're both still wondering what the catch is. Professional, knowledgeable and helpful at a very reasonable price. Come on. If you haven't guessed by now, we're not short of skepticism. But if you're at that stage where you're trying to decide what to do, let me console you by saying you're not alone. We've all been there and it's fairly daunting. We are, after all, talking about a substantial investment in a country with which you may not be that familiar. We decided to pay a 6 day visit to Paris in April. On arrival Darrell and Stephanie invited us into their (fabulous) apartment and gave us their full attention, providing us with a full itinerary, details, procedures, and everything we needed to feel at ease. At this stage, all I can say is, "wear good walking shoes." You'll read in most other testimonials about the well-oiled machine that Darrell and Stephanie transform into the moment they enter an apartment, so I won't repeat it all here. Let it suffice to say that it's magic to behold. (Darrell has a particular interest in fuse boxes and boilers.) We visited 8 or 9 apartments on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, and at the end of each day we could hardly remember which apartment was which. We referred to them afterwards as "the one with the red kitchen", "the one with the woman and the little girl where we visited the cellar", "the one with the uptight guy", "the one with the nice young couple and no lift" etc. At the end of the second day, we had decided that "the red kitchen" was worth making an offer on (Stephanie knew this the minute she walked in the door but it took a while longer for us to realise that) so we made an offer which was accepted. Delighted with our new planned purchase, we went off on our own in search of places to buy curtains, furniture, etc. At this stage, you will have passed numerous estate agencies in your travels around Paris, and the curiosity will absolutely kill you. That increasingly elusive too-good-to-be-true catch regarding Darrell and Stephanie still haunts you. You'll think, "What's the harm. That place in the window looks OK and the price is reasonable." If you've managed to stay with me this far, then please read this carefully: There are no bargains to be found in a Paris estate agency. They can charge considerably more for exactly the same property which Darrell and Stephanie will be able to find listed elsewhere for less money. When we visited an agent, they told us about an apartment which would be "parfait pour vous" and which cost X. They showed us some pictures and told us the address at which point we realised that we had already viewed the same apartment the previous day with Darrell and Stephanie, and the asking price was X minus about EUR 15,000. On the morning of the day we were due to officially sign the purchase contract, Darrell called us to say that the owner had changed his mind the night before and was selling to someone else. This apparently doesn't happen very often so we were unlucky. Hugely disappointed by this turn of events, we reconsidered another apartment and decided to make an offer on that. Again, we were unlucky as the owner decided to raise the price at the last minute and we weren't prepared to increase our offer. We returned to Dublin with our tails between our legs and planned to return to Paris a few weeks later for another try. Despite all that, the experience was wonderful, and within 3 weeks a promising apartment came on the market. Darrell, in his usual well-organised fashion, emailed us about 30 digital photographs of the apartment so we were fairly sure it was exactly what we wanted. We decided we'd better view it before it was snapped up by someone else so we quickly made our way to Paris and viewed it first thing the next day. The building caretaker had shown us around so after the viewing, Stephanie immediately phoned the owner to make an offer on our behalf. Unfortunately, he wasn't available so we were left in suspense until he returned Stephanie's call later that evening. While sitting in a restaurant that night, Darrell phoned us to say that our offer had been accepted. We ordered another bottle of wine and let an unfortunate group of Finnish people at the next table share our joy in having just purchased our own piece of Paris. Looking back on it now, I think the problem we had initially was that we simply didn't know enough about the Paris property market to fully appreciate the advice Darrell and Stephaine were giving us. Paris is a unique city and so too is the property market. You will compare things to 'back home' and you'll wonder whether they're right. It's only after looking at a number of various places that you start to realize that you should have taken their advice from the very first moment and saved what's left of the relationship you have with your feet. In the end, we bought our ideal apartment on our second visit, but we would have been very happy to buy it without seeing it simply on the recommendation of Darrell and Stephanie. We put them to the test and I have to admit, there is no catch. They are simply the best way for anyone interested in buying an apartment in Paris to fulfill that dream. Save yourself (and your feet) a lot of unnecessary grief and trust their judgment. They know the market better than you can imagine. |
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